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akmedo

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SanMikYee

Except that post is 5hrs previous and ba2202 has been on time for the last 8 days and the next is scheduled in 7  hours.
So when was this?

staffie2001uk

Wait so all these bricks were in cabin crew (or someone elses) luggage? Do they not go through the same scanning checks we do?

starsandbribes

I’ll be doing this route in 3 weeks time lol

chocolatecockroach

&gt; apparently 2 of the cabin crew were arrested

Man the Cancun fight sounds wild, we just got champagne last time I flew premium

zeocrash

jumbocards

Latter-Dare1724

We had a flight on BA 2202 on Monday 7th 7.40pm cancun to Gatwick and ours was delayed 2 hours due to the plane flagging the weight on the cargo was unbalanced lol, strange it’s the same plane number and same route with a cargo “issue”

Oddjoby123

I will let someone else correct me, but if they are telling you it is days to get back, find an alternate itinerary, even on another airline, and ask to be booked on it. I believe BA is required to rebook you on another airline per EU/UK rules if they cannot get you back within a reasonable timeframe.


Also, claim your 600 GBP from them as not having a couple reserve crew, especially within days of the event happening, is likely within their control per previous court rulings.

TheTwoOneFive

JM555555

We flew out of Cancun Thursday 10th, our flight (same flight number as the original poster) was delayed 20 minutes, boarded at 8pm instead of 7:40pm and when we landed at Gatwick we were delayed getting off the plane for a good half an hour because border control wanted to have the sniffer dogs as we exit, now we know why! Mad

Monavampy

If they nabbed this in Mexico then it will all be returned to the cartel and they’ll be asked to try again by making it less noticeable next time.

Cartels are the de facto government of Mexico. It’s just an illusion of democracy there.

Mommy_Yummy

Odd_Support_3600

I'm meant to be on the outbound flight tomorrow, lol

UvG_Licenseplate

Afraid-Afternoon-904

They whipped the scales out just make sure they weren’t getting ripped off 😂

laughingdoormouse

Bricks of yayo on a scheduled flight? Please. Must want to get caught

Dry-Marketing-6798

Police found 50 bricks and the 40 bricks were put on display. Congratulating the officers the Chief of Police commended the officers for taking 25 bricks off the streets before confirming the street value of all 15 bricks…

Any_Necessary_9588

A drug bust is great and all......but I think the bigger issues is the logo ba use for on here. They really need to get rid of that stripey thing and go back to their proper logo.

TheBoss141523

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deepfrying

1.) What were the top commodities of your cartel when you were in? I've read that the majority of the world's coke supply comes from the cartels, but did meth enter into the equation at all? Heroine?

2.) Obviously, the war on drugs hasn't been super effective, but based on your experiences, what do you think is the most effective strategy to convince people against purchasing narcotics?

Are people of different races chosen for different jobs?

I feel as if a white American guy would be less likely to be pulled over or inspected again opposed to a Mexican guy.

Does this play a role in anyway?

Also, what is your workforce made of?

Is it only Mexicans and Americans or are there international members of the cartel?

ethan3411

You mentioned that you were doing this for the benefit of people you care about. Did they know about what you were doing at the time? Do they know now? How do they feel about it?

JustFox_

Have you ever at any point had a close call or had your life in imminent danger by the cartel for a mistake or misunderstanding such as losing a load? 

Questions:

1, What do you think it would take to stop the drug smuggling into the US?

2, How corrupt are the police, border patrol and government officials in the surrounding border towns?  How do they get away with it?

3. Are the cartel bosses as professional and educated as any CEO/executive of a legitimately successful company in the US?  What are their credentials? (MBA, etc.)

Veedree_Sweden

What’s the worst thing you’ve seen while on the job? How have your experiences changed your perspective on the world around you.

MechaCatzilla

What do you think about Trump's idea of a wall? How effective would you think it would be against smuggling and preventing crime in your opinion/experience and why?

anonymas

How easy were the jobs? Did you have to come up with creative ways to transport the drugs? If so, what's your most creative way of doing it?

xXSpaceTurtleXx

What was the closest call you had where you weren’t caught?

feelslifeman

How important is the head capo to the average Mexican worker? Like is it just a business relationship like someone here world see a CEO as or is there more loyalty involved? I figure the status would warrant loyalty but then again people get tortured for that so idk personally I'd just go with the mass murderer paying me whoever that is

You mentioned that you were more afraid of the cartel than the feds, in reality, how much power would you think they ACTUALLY have in terms of operating a murder in the US from Mexico? I’ve heard that despite they’re financial and man power, they can’t carry out kills in the states like they do easily in Mexico. To the point of having to either contract the killing to an American gang like MS13 or hope the target visits Mexico.

It's not as though "drug mule procurement" works on a resume, and savings will only last so long. Any ideas what you might do now?

mamamedic

Were you ever forced to put something in your body? 

Awportune

What sort of arrangements are made if a person in your position is caught. Let’s say your caught and you went away for 10 years, unless you rat out the cartel.
Obviously you don’t rat them out cause you don’t want to die, do you receive any sort of reward or payment for keeping quiet and doing time or is the reward not being beheaded?

EpicDragonRaptor

How did you get into being a drug mule? Did someone come up to you or did you go to someone to get into the business?

ThatYoungBro

How many people did you rat on to be caught smuggling 3 times and not be in prison?

Thr33guy

Why were you not imprisoned? If you were imprisoned, how long would it be for?

seanspotatobusiness

Damn. I'm in Texas. I go down to the border weekly. I could not do this. Did you ever have a problem with anxiety of paranoia?

leotushex

Based off your username and some of the other comments being surrounded by CID, were you in the military during this time? 

kylejoesph11

Did you go through the desert or the mountains or cross at a border? any wall hopping?

ifaptotheexercist

How are you able to do this AMA without getting fucked? Are you not paranoid? I'm paranoid for you haha. 

incredibly_ordinary

Hey bro I'm down in the valley too, badass ama.


Did you use your own car on most trips? I heard about some crazy compartments and traps

Did you get nervous when you see cops? I get wired when I see that trooper parked in the cross roads and I'm only a college kid with a g, couldn't imagine with much more 

Whenever me or a friend get stopped sometimes I can tell if the cop is digging because all the questions and shit they ask. You have a story lined up or what? 


da52

Did you or you organization sometime pay a federal agent bribe?

nini1818

Did you ever have anyone try to give you fake money or flip on you who was a buyer?  Any threats?

samcook1219

catcradle5

Can you maybe ping us in a couple of months so we know you didn't lose your head?

badger991

Did you ever encounter cartel-connected people that seriously gave you the creeps? Cold hearted hitmen etc? Not creepy *toward* you personally, I just mean in general.

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GenuineSnakeOil

So you live in "the valley" of South Texas by chance? 

systemhost

misdirected_asshole

spitefence

Have you ever seen a two hampsters have sex? 

jj-twatt

I am a Mexican citizen from a border state. The Cartel del Golfo is widely regarded as one of the most "Benevolent" and "Fair", relatively speaking. What's your take on that?

gibagger

J3STER_4

Have you ever felt that you want to get out of the business but you were too afraid? Have you seen people being tortured/killed?

florin1996

I find this ama fascinating in every aspect. Negative outcomes to positive revenues. Great AMA. Native of cincinnati, STAY OUTTA MY HOOD! HAHA. Did you carry a fire arm?

crank1off

What’s the process of recruiting other mules involve?

Poppintool

Did you watch breaking bad or other „drug“ series? If so, did you like it? Because you actually know how this buisness works and can compare it to yourself.

Cloob123

Do you still have connections to people working for the cartel?

So what exactly did you say when arrested? I have no clue what is in the car, I have no comment or I want a lawyer?
 
Just asking for a friend.

zipzapkazoom

What has been the scariest situation you’ve been in?  Any close calls (with law enforcement)?

Edit: hey, don’t downvote me!  I’m just here to ask a question!

You say that it took you over 6 months to find a guy to get you in to the cartel. How did you find this guy? Did you have any connections before finding this guy? If not how did you convince the guy that you should be allowed in the cartel?

What was the scariest moment when you got busted the first time? When did your "oh shit, not again" mindset kick in on the second time and what did you do?


Seraph_Grymm

questions_for_us

Ever see someone or hear of someone getting their head chopped off?

skyblueleaves

Do you ever think you will try being a smuggler again, if so, what would your nickname be?

Wasabisteamer

Any of your work buddies die in this process?

yucatan36

How many times do you think your life was truly in danger?

lilpumpxanss

have you been to r/watchpeopledie ?

there are some of the most depraved, vicious examples of cartel violence. What did those people do to be executed in such a brutal way?

KKD97

denchLikeWa

It seems like you had a lot of options whether to take jobs or not. I was under the impression that if they need something done they "make you" aka "plata o plomo". Can you expand on that?

rome_

Was it awkward asking your boss permission to post this AMA? 


seraphim-20

What made you realize you had to leave that organization/lifestyle? How did you go about doing it? Any repercussions?

jackflerp

Did you see warehoused product when you picked up, or did someone just roll up with your vehicle?  I imagine that's all compartmentalized and why you feel ok with talking about this, knowing nothing about the origin of the product and not being able to rob them in the future, no? 

Did you ever have to do any butt smuggling?

How well do you sleep at night knowing that you were an accessory to a crime organization that chops people's heads off, kidnaps people, rapes women, tortures people, murders families, etc?  

TTG1990

Are you from the states or from Mexico (or elsewhere)?

coltonmil

Did the cartel allow you to do this AMA as a way to improve their image or a way to get people interested to join? Seems your comments are a bit muted when people ask about deaths the linked to the cartel. Did they give you some guidelines for this AMA?

Nateyesme

Can you go into more detail as to how or why you were caught the first time? What led them to you?

MattHoudini1989

El_O_El

In your comments below it says you saved up some money. How? As the feds siezed all mine when I got caught

someGUYwithADHD

1) Did you ever use any tunnels or have knowledge of them?

2) Also when the wall is build, will cartels use them more often for people smuggling?

3) How did you get out of the cartel? Did they trust you not snitching?

Mellowtree

I presume rivalry was a thing between gangs (correct me if I'm wrong) have you ever been attacked off a rival gang or had your life been put in danger at any point?

Were you paid by the value of the load? Did you negotiate for higher rates or turn down gigs that were too risky?

ceocoo

Andsarahwaslike

I would assume that the easier way to smuggle drugs is with a simple remote submarine.  You could tow it by "fishing" boat and if you see the cops you release the tow line and have the sub hold position somewhere not by you.  The sub could have batteries and be remote controlled so it could drive itself as well.  The main tow boat could recharge the sub batteries to extend the range. 

I just came up with this on the toilet.  I wonder if drug Lords are already doing this?

phantasic79

Approximately how many runs did you do for 200k? In other words what was an average run worth?  

Did you run money back?

Has the extra money changed you as a person? Has it changed the way people you know or strangers interact with you? I have heard people say they don't realize how shallow people are until they get money then everyone wants to be their friend. 

internationalsweetie

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